Y4: The Never Ending Plot

[Prof Octavious Everritt]

I think we should drop the Big Powerful Evil artefact plot and keep the Rogues and Ministry fighting, no teaming up.

I believe a few of us more active members should make new characters on both sides, creating a slightly larger base for both sides.

The RRL... Don't know much about them, maybe make them the dark organisation?

[Ian Gray]

Hmm...

Coming from the other side - I think we should say goodbye to the Ministry and Rogues all together. At least plot wise. They kind of took over the school and the students don't really mix in well. It's more of an adult-themed plot, so you have to have adult characters, and I prefer student characters. With any future big plot we have, I'd like to get the students in there a lot more.

Also contrary to all of you, I liked the 'treasure' bit best. Probably, once again, because students got involved. Also, I'm sure it's because I didn't really have a prominent ministry character and particpated in this part a lot more.

But even that, I think should go. Starting fresh would be really cool, I think. Keeping a simpler part of this plot would be great too.

For new plots however, how about a shady teacher that eats students!

Well... maybe not...

[Jerred Boneman]

crucio said:

For new plots however, how about a shady teacher that eats students...

... school books?

I added the ... deliberately, lol.

[Professor Daniel Hubbles]

You know what…I think Darin has a point. There does seem to be a lot of adults when really Hogwarts is designed for students…but also think about it every time a year goes by more ‘adults’ are created because students leave…and if people have established that character they do not want them to just vanish. Which then leaves them with the ministry to join, a Quidditch team, open a shop which normally then fails or they get killed off or just fade into the darkness.

I also agree with Darin that students needs to do more. They are the heart of Hogwarts and there should be more for them to do. But then the idea of bringing the ministry in was for the school to unite together, you picked your side and fought your corner, then the RRL was invented to be the outside worlds stand against the Ministry…and the rouges appeared…RRL faded and it just turned into a scrap between the Ministry and rouges…and then the problem came when there is only like 1 or 2 people who have Ministry characters left.

I think we are trying to solve something…but no one knows what the something is.

[The Sorting Hat]

Yeah that was the problem with this plot... Students weren't involved very much. Which is stupid seeing as this is a site at the school. Ha. I tried to get ways to bring them in, but meh.. more complications.

I think what I would really like now is a new plot . Simple. Students at the heart of it, but broad enough to have adult characters involved too.

[Bradyn Reed]

OK I was brainstorming and this idea may sound.. crazy but I like it..

Maybe to make a flow between our current plot and the next
We could have Illyana assassinated ( if possible ) and this would cause a monstrous disturbance in the ministry. Because some people on her side may stop supporting her, some may still preach her ideas, some could go to the rogues, some could just want their money, ect ect.
and then the ministry would.. fall so to speak

and it wouldn't be able to pick a new leader and take care of the wizarding world. So who's called on to help fix it?
Hogwarts and it's Headmaster/Headmistress.
and they could like form little mini-counsels of students and teachers.

And then the rogues and RRL could be mad or trying to bribe people to get their ideas in?

I don't know, it sounds better in my head but it'd flow like
Ministry powers being temporarily put to Hogwarts while the adults try to make nice.

( I thought I'd throw that out there just for a different idea )

[aly]

how bout for the graduation, we put up a notice towards the end of term, and any seventh year who wants to participate just signs up.

[Neku]

<sup>Heres a wacky idea

Why dont we just scrap planning a plot... Keep the Rogues and Ministry fighting eachother... And see what happens and where it leads?</sup>

[Sheba Snow]

neku said:

<sup>Heres a wacky idea

Why dont we just scrap planning a plot... Keep the Rogues and Ministry fighting eachother... And see what happens and where it leads?</sup>

Ugh, but that's just it - it's not leading anywhere. I'm tired of the whole Rogues vs Ministry thing... it was good in the beginning when it was just a spinoff of the main plot, but now it's just taken over. I liked it when it was all focused around the school and the stdents - this current one excludes about 75% of the site because the only Big stuff seems to be for the adults... adults who aren't even teachers, even. The Rogues seem to take away from the Harry Potter element too - its all about spies now...

I'm all for the new Plot with Darin and Gail. Have things back to basics and have it focused on the school.

[Neku]

<sup>Yeah i see that the students cant really have much to do with the Rogues and Ministry's war, but if you scrap that altogether then you're leaving a lot of good characters with nothing to do either.
All im saying is, keep the Rogues and Ministry as they are fighting each other then at least one little thing is still ongoing, and as i stated, this will give people who have characters in both of these places something to do then their characters dont just fade away into nothing.

Dont forget there is three different things on this board and each of these three need something to do or then the characters they have worked hard on will just be lost.

I also agree with Leigh, active people should create more characters, i have one in the ministry, the rogues and of course Neku here.

As for the students, well i guess its down to them to sort their own plotline out. Maybe you can choose an active student to go bad or something like that? Not original sure enough but still... Why not look through past plotlines, find someone who was good at coming up with them and ask them to think of something?</sup>

[Sheba Snow]

Well Gail and Liz have already come up with something new, which sounds really good (from what hint I've recieved at least) and it feels like how this current plot felt in the beginning, which was really good. I'm not saying get rid of the Rogues and Ministry completely, as I have characters in them too, but I just think they should but margined for a while. Can't imagine any ending aside from one side admitting defeat, which won't happen.

[Edward Niven]

It's a drag about the characters. Even I really enjoyed playing Deek, he was a favourite, but I had to give him up as soon as the Ministry vs. Rogues plot appeared. It's just very complex and completion isn't anywhere in sight.

Personally, I find plots give purpose to the RPing. They provide action and aims for our characters, and as a bonus, really help to develop them. I think if you look at it, you'll see that a very small population is participating in the current plot (because so many members have gone and been replaced with new characters who haven't been here for all of it) and that it has barely moved action-wise.

If you try out the new plot, you can make new personalities and characters - which is always fun .[/color]

[Prof. Darrow]

Hmm well it looks like we've got ourselves in a right old pickle here
but it can't be helped as peoplefrom all sides have really good arguments, myself I've characters everywhere so I'd like to think I can give a reasonably balanced viewpoint (though people may obviously disagree lol) and I can see a possible way through the plot that is currently running.

Within each element are bascially "good" people with human morals and values looking for a decent ending to the fighting but these are mixed in with the "bad" people who wish to stir up trouble and really have power for their own personal gain and own motives; Deitrich obviously springs to mind. The only real way for the fighting to end is to remove the bad elements from each group as it were, but not a simple killing off they can go on the run, possibly within the school to draw in pupils, whatever.

So I think we should try rounding off this plot, it shouldn't take too long if we all work together, and the new plot can be starting from the dying embers of the last as it were.
Knowing the Rogues I believe they wouldn't try seizing power of the school unless pressed, which they are as the Ministry's noose encircles them. They could have a tip-off that the "powerful item" is within the school, so they seize control, being careful not to injure pupils (as they aren't that bad really) the evil elements of the Ministry can then launch a counter-attack which does inevitably endanger the pupils. Meanwhile a select few rogues can be searching for the item within the bowels of the castle, whilst the others try to hold the Ministry reinforcements back. Each side could then realise that the pupils are in danger (and are probably fighting back most likely) so they face a choice; save the students or not. Clearly the decent people from all factions will help the students.

The Red Rose League can also be incorporated as they try to stop the fighting, and their mysterious leader can surface. Then I think the students (the Guild maybe?) should actually find the item of power, so the school in effect has control, and the Ministry can be restructured and made anew maybe. Members of every side can be a part of the new, much better, regime?

But then the adult element can still play a part as they hunt down any survivors of the battle, say any evil rogues or ministry spies, as the New Ministry is restructured??

For me this finishing to the plot could work, but that's obviously just my point of view and a plan we could put into action if we agree. people who just want the new plot can start on that by all means then others who wish to finish the current one can, but remember it will still have a resonance later.

So what do you all think to this possible idea then? Feel free to slate it, tisn't the best I know!


Oohh and also I had possible ideas to bounce of everyone for future plots;
1. A rogue...dragon, (or some sort of beasty) is rumoured to be heading towards the school; panic ensues as they try to deal with it? students can find whatever the monster thingy is
2. Sounds strange this one; an epidemic within the school, some sort of magic maladie can strike, where pupils fall ill, maybe if they'd had contact with something, gone into the forest and touched a certain plant? Something to bring the school together in that way.
3. Centaurs grow restless (I know there aren't many lol) and so have major disagreements with the school, maybe a few students can go missing? People believe them abducted by the centaurs so there's lots of tension there, then it could be that an evil witch or wizard took them? Or they just ran off or something?

So yeh those are just a few random ideas to mull over really, feel free to say yay or nay to them =)

[Bradyn Reed]

Wow.
To me you're ideas seem brilliant and they seemed to tie together all the good ideas that we've come up with so far.
Though there is one thing I'd like to point out about them: They seem overly violent.
But I guess we can't possibly get out of this war without the epic battle that ends it all?
We might have to rebuild the guild, should someone get on that right quick?

As to your plot ideas, they seem quite good. Each promising lots of action to guide our threads in a good direction, the 2nd one has to be my favorite ( the most tragic sounding one, I'm so horrible xD ).

[Char Hadley]

That's totally true. A compromise works and having the old plot around where it's not hurting anyone isn't a bad idea. If there are people that want to round it off and finish it, then go you! And if we can get the new plot started, everyone's happy, I think. At least, everyone will have a place to RP and be a part of something, rather than losing their characters or being left out.

I agree - Try the guild again, if the plot continues! It would be fun (and I hate my Ministry character, haha) Plus, there are loads of people that are always interested...

I like the second one as well!
Much better than my teacher eating students idea, anyway