Snape: Good or Death Eater?

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Snape: Good or Death Eater? Mar 4, 2006 18:27:30 GMT

Post by Apronia Silvanus on Mar 4, 2006 18:27:30 GMT

Snape is NOT CLEARLY BAD.

Here´s my crackpot theory: firstly, Severus took the Unbreakable Vow. Dumbledore had to know that at some point, a situation would arise in which someone would directly or indirectly ask Severus to kill him. And therefore, he would have discussed it with him beforehand. So, he takes the vow. Dumbledore therefore knows he´s going to die (whether or not he was going to die anyway) and begins to pass on a lot more knowledge to Harry. In the scene where Snape actually kills him, Dumbledore reaches out his arms...for mercy? I don´t think so, especially since he reminded Snape of a mysterious promise! It seemed to me more like an entreaty for Severus to do what he knows he has to.

Dumbledore´s death accomplishes the following:
1. Voldemort trusts Snape
2. Probably will unite the Wizarding World (martyr effect)

We also know that Dumbledore considers death ¨the next great adventure¨. So I say it was a plot to winnow Severus further into the ranks of Death Eaters. Not sure Dumbledore is still alive, but he could be a ghost, who knows?

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Mandrake Black Ex Flying Payback is Hell. Posts: 461	Snape: Good or Death Eater? Mar 4, 2006 20:04:06 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Mandrake Black on Mar 4, 2006 20:04:06 GMT this is my theroy. slughorn was nowhere to be found at dumbys funeral of when the death eaters came. slughorn might have had some dumby polyjuice potion
	"I was not birthed, I was genetically mutated from the pure essence of excellency. if all of god creatures were like me, we wouldn't have to struggle through the great depression, and would have the theorem for cold fusion. i am also the 13th apostle chosen by jesus. Beau Wilson, more powerful than Alexander the Great, could single-handedly conquer the world. I also created fire and the wheel".

The Sorting Hat Posts: 1,196	Snape: Good or Death Eater? Mar 4, 2006 20:46:14 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by The Sorting Hat on Mar 4, 2006 20:46:14 GMT well ive definately never heard that one before!!
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Mandrake Black Ex Flying Payback is Hell. Posts: 461	Snape: Good or Death Eater? Mar 4, 2006 23:15:24 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Mandrake Black on Mar 4, 2006 23:15:24 GMT i know it sounds crazy
	"I was not birthed, I was genetically mutated from the pure essence of excellency. if all of god creatures were like me, we wouldn't have to struggle through the great depression, and would have the theorem for cold fusion. i am also the 13th apostle chosen by jesus. Beau Wilson, more powerful than Alexander the Great, could single-handedly conquer the world. I also created fire and the wheel".

The Sorting Hat Posts: 1,196	Snape: Good or Death Eater? Mar 5, 2006 11:14:37 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by The Sorting Hat on Mar 5, 2006 11:14:37 GMT no, its just really original!

Prof. Algernon Moncrieff Ex Divination Posts: 907	Snape: Good or Death Eater? Mar 5, 2006 14:05:21 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Prof. Algernon Moncrieff on Mar 5, 2006 14:05:21 GMT Wait so... you're saying the Dumbledore that was killed was really Slughorn in disguise?

Mandrake Black Ex Flying Payback is Hell. Posts: 461	Snape: Good or Death Eater? Mar 5, 2006 16:42:23 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Mandrake Black on Mar 5, 2006 16:42:23 GMT yes
	"I was not birthed, I was genetically mutated from the pure essence of excellency. if all of god creatures were like me, we wouldn't have to struggle through the great depression, and would have the theorem for cold fusion. i am also the 13th apostle chosen by jesus. Beau Wilson, more powerful than Alexander the Great, could single-handedly conquer the world. I also created fire and the wheel".

darkvampireangel Guest	Snape: Good or Death Eater? Mar 5, 2006 16:43:09 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by darkvampireangel on Mar 5, 2006 16:43:09 GMT huh? okaaay... that'd be kinda weird....

Mandrake Black Ex Flying Payback is Hell. Posts: 461	Snape: Good or Death Eater? Mar 5, 2006 16:48:59 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Mandrake Black on Mar 5, 2006 16:48:59 GMT Im very weird
	"I was not birthed, I was genetically mutated from the pure essence of excellency. if all of god creatures were like me, we wouldn't have to struggle through the great depression, and would have the theorem for cold fusion. i am also the 13th apostle chosen by jesus. Beau Wilson, more powerful than Alexander the Great, could single-handedly conquer the world. I also created fire and the wheel".

Prof. Algernon Moncrieff Ex Divination Posts: 907	Snape: Good or Death Eater? Mar 5, 2006 16:53:23 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Prof. Algernon Moncrieff on Mar 5, 2006 16:53:23 GMT Nahh... when they were getting the horcruxe together the Dumbledore was acting exactly like himself. Also, Slughorn be selfsacrificing? I dont THINK so.
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Snape: Good or Death Eater? Mar 5, 2006 16:57:16 GMT

Post by darkvampireangel on Mar 5, 2006 16:57:16 GMT

algernon said:

Also, Slughorn be selfsacrificing? I dont THINK so.

yeah... i agree with ya jordy... i mean that does not sound like something Slughorn would do. the real Dumbledore? yeah... probably. but Slughorn disguised as Dumbledore? no way.

Jinesh Jobalia Posts: 162	Snape: Good or Death Eater? Mar 5, 2006 16:58:45 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Jinesh Jobalia on Mar 5, 2006 16:58:45 GMT wat is the martyr's effect?? no way slughorn.....a person who can be a little selfish...i don't think he can be sacrificing his life and do u think dumbledore.....the greatest sorcerer would allow anyone to die for him?

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Snape: Good or Death Eater? Mar 5, 2006 19:09:41 GMT

Post by The Sorting Hat on Mar 5, 2006 19:09:41 GMT

Martyr.. umm.. its like dying for your cause, er, suffering death rather than giving up your beliefs.

Someone else could probably explain it better

Meh, the suggestion is unlikely, but surprisingly possible, even if it isnt what I think happened. I think its a cool suggestion though because its so original.

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Snape: Good or Death Eater? Mar 5, 2006 19:27:14 GMT

Post by Dr. Bunchington on Mar 5, 2006 19:27:14 GMT

martyr implies loss of life in order to save, protect or prevent something bad from happening...

I'm not sure if this is helpfull but christian martyrs only become martyrs if they are see to have died 'to protect the law of God and uphold his sacred mystery'

yeah, not useful. Sorry...

la la la...

anyhoo, i'm a strong believer in snape being good. I think that dumbledore wanted to die. I think its connected with sirius and possibly, don't kill me for saying this, i think that he might bring sirius back somehow...

Last Edit: Mar 5, 2006 19:30:48 GMT by Dr. Bunchington

The Sorting Hat Posts: 1,196	Snape: Good or Death Eater? Mar 6, 2006 17:42:56 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by The Sorting Hat on Mar 6, 2006 17:42:56 GMT how do u think its connected to sirius? and who brings sirius back?

Post by Apronia Silvanus on Mar 4, 2006 18:27:30 GMT

Post by Mandrake Black on Mar 4, 2006 20:04:06 GMT

Post by The Sorting Hat on Mar 4, 2006 20:46:14 GMT

Post by Mandrake Black on Mar 4, 2006 23:15:24 GMT

Post by The Sorting Hat on Mar 5, 2006 11:14:37 GMT

Post by Prof. Algernon Moncrieff on Mar 5, 2006 14:05:21 GMT

Post by Mandrake Black on Mar 5, 2006 16:42:23 GMT

Post by darkvampireangel on Mar 5, 2006 16:43:09 GMT

Post by Mandrake Black on Mar 5, 2006 16:48:59 GMT

Post by Prof. Algernon Moncrieff on Mar 5, 2006 16:53:23 GMT

Post by darkvampireangel on Mar 5, 2006 16:57:16 GMT

Post by Jinesh Jobalia on Mar 5, 2006 16:58:45 GMT

Post by The Sorting Hat on Mar 5, 2006 19:09:41 GMT

Post by Dr. Bunchington on Mar 5, 2006 19:27:14 GMT

Post by The Sorting Hat on Mar 6, 2006 17:42:56 GMT